Midlife Spotlight

Creating joy: Embracing your creative superpowers

September 04, 2023 Kate Campion and Sara Garska Season 1 Episode 12
Creating joy: Embracing your creative superpowers
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Midlife Spotlight
Creating joy: Embracing your creative superpowers
Sep 04, 2023 Season 1 Episode 12
Kate Campion and Sara Garska

Creativity lives in all of us. In this podcast episode, we  highlight the importance of embracing and nurturing this innate human trait. We challenge common misconceptions around creative pursuits, debunking the notion that creativity is reserved for the chosen few. 
Creativity is not about being the best but rather about the joy of expression. It is a learnable skill, comparable to any other skill developed over time. Creative pursuits also lead to a sense of accomplishment and personal fulfillment, extending far beyond the final product. 
With this in mind, we encourage you to explore your creative passions, no matter your skill level, without fear of judgment. Then you too can experience the vibrant energy that creative expression can infuse into your life.


Disclaimer: This podcast, along with associated websites and social media materials, are not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are that of Sara Garska and Kate Campion, and that of our guests, respectively. It is for informational purposes only. Please consult your healthcare professional for medical questions.

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Creativity lives in all of us. In this podcast episode, we  highlight the importance of embracing and nurturing this innate human trait. We challenge common misconceptions around creative pursuits, debunking the notion that creativity is reserved for the chosen few. 
Creativity is not about being the best but rather about the joy of expression. It is a learnable skill, comparable to any other skill developed over time. Creative pursuits also lead to a sense of accomplishment and personal fulfillment, extending far beyond the final product. 
With this in mind, we encourage you to explore your creative passions, no matter your skill level, without fear of judgment. Then you too can experience the vibrant energy that creative expression can infuse into your life.


Disclaimer: This podcast, along with associated websites and social media materials, are not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The views expressed are that of Sara Garska and Kate Campion, and that of our guests, respectively. It is for informational purposes only. Please consult your healthcare professional for medical questions.

Kate: Welcome to the Midlife Spotlight podcast. I’m Kate Campion -
Sara: and I’m Sara Garska -
Kate: and we’re certified life coaches obsessed with helping you find joy in this next act of your life. Whether it’s reviving your midlife marriage, losing weight, or scratching that “what next” itch, we’re here to share our experience and expertise with you.
This podcast is a weekly dose of YOU time, where you get the tools and tricks to improve your health and happiness. Talking to you is so much fun, so thanks for tuning in. Let’s get started.
Kate: Hello and welcome to Midlife Spotlight, the show that helps you enjoy your next act.
I'm Kate Campion. 
Sara: And I'm Sara Garska.
Kate: And in today's episode, we're going to be talking about creativity.
Sara: We are. So I'm just putting this out here. We are all born creative. And I know not everyone believes that they are, but I hope by the time that we finish this episode that everyone that's listening will believe that they're creative and will start looking for ways to express it because there's a good reason for that. 
So for too long, creativity has been regarded as, no, sure, it's a nice thing if you have it. But being creative has not been considered essential. So I want to offer that the creative part of you is one, something you do have. It's not reserved for a special few. The second thing is that it is not a nice little bonus for some. It is a fundamental quality that you and everyone else has. So we haven't talked about this ahead of time, but is that, do you believe that everyone's creative or?
Kate: Yeah, totally. So I think that thing that you said about that idea, that it's not just about being artists because there's like a lot of thinking that being creative is about the arts and it might be just being, know, yes, I can, I can dance I can't, I can draw, I can write, can do whatever.
And I know for my own self that creativity is something that is very important to me that has been a part of my life right from when I was younger, like I would always be writing stories. So my creativity is as fundamentally in writing.
And so I don't know if you know this about me, but for many years I was a failed romance writer, like I really wanted to be a published romance writer.
And I wrote maybe for 10 years, I wrote a lot of stories, but never actually made it successfully in the publishing world.
And the funny thing though is now is all those hundreds of thousands of words that I wrote probably helped me when it came to starting my blog much later on.
Sara: Absolutely. 
Kate: But yeah, even that, you know, when I was thinking about being creative, I still thought that even I had this creative aspect with the writing, I didn't see that I was creative in other ways. And the example I'm specifically thinking about is I had this friend and she was really creative when it came to arranging things in her home.
Everything on the coffee table would just be placed like an interior designer would do it. You know, like the pictures, the art on the walls were just like perfectly placed.
It was just such this amazing space to go in. And I did not think that I was capable of creating something like that myself.
But I actually learned through the process of when my husband and I built our house in 2016 that actually I could learn to be creative and that's something we'll talk about a little bit later.
Sara: Yeah. Yeah. So one of the misconceptions about creativity is that it is reserved for artists. And as you said, like, it's not. And I don't think so.  And the other thing is, from what I can tell after working with thousands of people, all people are drawn towards being creative.
That just seems innate. So I'm not even arguing over whether we are or not or whether we should or shouldn't. It's just, it's something I've observed in people, like they want to be creative in some way. But it's just not encouraged.
Most of us are encouraged to do be practical and learn real skills, you know. So creativity is looked at as being like this kind of just extra thing.
Sure, that's nice. But I believe that having an active creative life, is the secret sauce to everything being better.
It's not just this little bonus. I don't have a good analogy, so I'm going to not try to do one.
But it's just, it's important.
Kate: It's not just the icing on the cake. It's part of  the cake.
Sara: Yes. Yes. Thank you. So Kate, when you were talking about building your house and discovering that that creative part of yourself, like how did it change your belief in yourself?
Kate: It was actually very empowering because what I was able to know about myself was that I had the ability to take a vision and then translate it into reality in a way that would actually give me the result that I desired, which was pretty exciting.
Like, you know, the house that we built wasn't in the best, e were living out in the country and there was a whole lot of factors about why it wasn't the best, best location for us, but it was certainly an amazing, beautiful house for us.
I still think back in a previous episode, we talked about our favorite things and I still think back about the Perrin and Rowe tap that I had in the kitchen that even, you know, six years living in that house, every time I went into the kitchen, I would still like look at that tap and go, that's amazing. And then how that connects though is that we're now living in a home that needs some renovations done.
I've probably spent the last, I don't know, the last year thinking to myself and talking about with my husband, you know, do we get an interior designer?
What are we going to do with this house? And then I actually thought, I have got the skills to, you know, I can be creative, I can learn. I can actually do this myself, you know. I'm thinking about, because I love learning, I'm thinking about doing a free course on like interior design that I've got access to here.
And just to kind of give me a few more principles and things when I'm thinking about some more stuff because it is actually harder to renovate a property than it is to build one,  but I guess the bottom line of what I'm trying to say is the experiences that I've had in being creative have given me more confidence that I can take that forward into a new arena.
Sara: Yeah, and I love that. One thing I'm going to point out because it just became so clear to me, something that's different about the way you and I do things.
But I think it's going to be valuable for people listening because as you're talking and especially like referring back to the episode before this about the RV, my house, I keep, you know, that phrase, law of attraction keeps coming to me.
Because what you're describing is one way to make things happen, which is a creative thing. Yours involves envisioning it because you use that word and you like envision it how you want it to come out and then you plan, you research, and you take the steps.
And then, like you said, the house turned out the way you wanted. Like you make your visions come true.
And then as we'll become clear as we're talking about creativity today, my thing is I have no idea what it's going to look like.
I just, I will know the next step to take and I have a lot of trust in taking those steps and I still get to where I want to go.
And so the reason I'm pointing this out is just to throw that in there. you don't have to be super organized and a planner like Kate to get what you want in life.
You can also, there's different ways to use your own innate creativity. Yeah. So, yeah.
Kate: It might be a little bit off topic, but essentially, you know, what you're talking about to me is manifestation, which is like a huge principle in my own life as well.
And your process sounds like what I'd call a process of taking inspired action, you know, like this idea that you've got a… a dream of something that you want and then you'll get like clues or an inspired action of the next right step to take.
You might not actually know exactly what it'll look like, but you're kind of guided along the way. I actually see creativity as the same as manifestation because fundamentally creativity is when we take something that doesn't exist in reality and we make it reality.
Sara: Which is the scary part about it too. But you know, that process of that inspired action, I call it following breadcrumbs sometimes.
You know, I'll just get little clues and I'll just keep following them. Anyway, so I think that's going to be so, we're going to have so much fun later on talking about law of attraction because it's been treated as this like out there woo woo thing. Like you're just going to lay around thinking about what you want or cutting pictures out of magazines.
Kate: Which I do like to do.
Sara: That being said, though, it can also be a methodical process. And I will say this, even though mine isn't as well planned, it does require action.
It requires doing scary things. Anyway, so I'm going to get onto creativity here. 
All right. So as I think, I don't know, when we're kids. So we grew up in the 60s, 70s. And so childhood was a time of being creative. It was, it wasn't in a lot of classes. I mean, I went to school when I loved art class and everything. But mostly we just created. We drew pictures. Made crafts. My mom had a sewing machine. I was always allowed to use it. I was always playing with things, making things, planning things in nature. Being creative was just a part of growing up for me. And then as I got older and started my family and started working and doing different things. I feel like, for a lot of us, creativity gets pushed aside. Other things take priority, and maybe that's just a natural part of living our lives.
But there's a cost. And here in midlife, I think this call to be creative starts coming alive again.
Like, women, and I do refer to women because I work exclusively with women. So I don't mean to be non-inclusive, but soI’ll  say people.
But there's this call to be creative. And at the same time, we're also pushing it aside because even though the kids might be grown, we still are thinking about retirement. That's always out there. So I'm also seeing this push to push creativity aside till we have all our ducks in a row, where the savings is what it needs to be. This is done. This is done. I'll be creative later. But here's what I think. I think when you cut yourself off from your creative self, then life starts to seem boring, rote,dry  and also like something is missing.
As always, that something that's missing is a part of you. And I know that we can often feel like there's plenty of time we'll get to this later.
It might even feel smart to push off creative pursuits until you retire, the kids are gone, or you finally have the house cleaned up.
And that's another thing. People will be like, I can't be creative. You know, this bedroom, the guest bedroom's a mess, the garage is a mess. I'll be creative later. 
But referring back to episode eight, where we talked about the invisible woman, I think, you know, when you abandon your creative self, that also contributes to feeling invisible too, because that creative self, that is that juicy life-giving part of you.
And when we cut off from that and just concentrate on what we think is practical, then we kind of lose that part of ourselves.
And I think we also lose access to a lot of our problem solving and like creativity is practical. It's not this, know, that's I think the point I'm trying to make.
It's like it actually is practical. All right, which is why I'm trying to make a case that your creativity is absolutely essential and that it is the key not to just having a more satisfying life, but can help your health, your relationships and even even your ability to earn more.
To me, creativity is a life force and tapping into your own creativity is the difference between a stale life and a life of vibrancy.
Being creative equals feeling alive. All right, Kate. So this topic, I know you know where I'm going with this one, I think.
Yeah, because you've had to hear me whine for three, four months, my own coach and I'm just like, I know you're so tired of hearing about the podcast.
But anyway, this topic seems so perfect for you and me right now. We're just a few months into writing and recording our podcast episodes.
I feel like this project has really stretched our creativity.
Kate: Yeah, I was thinking about that in relation to what I was saying before about writing and sort of like skills that you have and then having the confidence to use them in new ways because it's been a very different. Well, actually, I mean, in some ways doing a podcast is the same as a little bit like teaching, know, teaching a lesson because you've got ideas that you hope that you can communicate.
And I mean, the same is done in blog posts, but it's had to be real like thinking around different things like, you know, what are topics that might be interesting, what skills do I need to develop in myself. And it's all quite creative. You know, there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that goes on and podcasts are even creating graphics, the social media that all require you to pull out that creative part of your brain. 
And I also think you and I doing this together, many creative pursuits are individual. I'm thinking obviously there are other ones that aren't lik dancing, but when you're doing a creative endeavor with another person as well, that's an interesting thing too, because it's like you said, it's your life force expressed.
And then you've got to merge it with another person to hopefully create something new as well. How this podcast is not the same as it would be if either you or I had done it on our own or with somebody else.
Sara: Yeah, and I like to think it's better than... well, I for sure can't speak for you, but I for sure think it's better with both of us than me doing it on my own.
Kate:I definitely like talking to you. 
Sara: Anyway, but yeah, but the funny thing is, so Kate and I have both been writing and publishing our blogs for about seven years.
We're creative that way. Like, and as you said, which I didn't know, you're also a romance writer. And so writing is what we do.
And so we've done writing, designing our graphics. We've had between, well, I've had millions of people., you’ve had millions of people read our words. You would think we'd have, we have the screen. You would think we have this creative thing down, wouldn't you? But I'm here to tell you that this podcast has pushed my limits.
I have felt intense fear, confusion, embarrassment, and shame. That's the joys of creativity. You know, it's, it comes with a lot of vulnerability.
And, you know, so why in the world would we put ourselves through this? Like, Why, Kate? And I'm going to talk about why we do it. But yeah, but the beginning of any creative and bit, any creative endeavor is miserable.
It just, it just is. And so I do want to note that when Kate reached out to me about the podcast, I thought it sounded fun.
I thought it sounded like a great adventure.
And that's what got me started.
You know, the idea, this is going to be fun. This is an adventure. This is what I want to do.
But it was hard! And so between like that idea that it's an adventure and fun and then realizing like it was really much more difficult than I thought it was going to be, and for me, so Kate does just to clarify, Kate does a lot of the, okay, Kate does all behind the scenes - who are we kidding? Kate does it all.
So all my difficulties have been in my head. They're all about hearing my voice, having my voice out there.Being heard in a very different way than writing. The question for me has been why I keep going forward when every step of this feels like misery.
Here's my short answer because creating something is the most incredible feeling in the world. It's a feeling that you can't get by consuming content.
You can't get it by consuming content. By that I mean by reading a book, watching TV or listening to something.
That's called consuming, but it doesn't give the thrill that creating something out of nothing does. You only get this amazing feeling by jumping in and making something where nothing else existed before.
Kate: 100%. That whole thinking for me is like you were saying like about being connected to your life's essence,  like human beings. I often walk around and I just look at things and I think to myself, this existed in someone's imagination once. You know, everything in your home, know, your artwork that you've got, your cushion, your lamp, that was all once an idea in somebody's mind that they actually created.
And the entire world that we live in right now is a creation. And so we are born to create.
I was thinking, I couldn't think of a good thing for it, but I was thinking, you know, we're not just human beings. We're actually human creators. And I think one of the reasons why we hit midlife in particular and why it becomes so pressing is that we get this sense that we've just been consuming other stuff for too long, it being society's beliefs on how we should act and what we should do or what levels of success or whatever we should aspire to, whether we're just consuming like, endless social media feeds like that's not what we're born to do. You know, we were born to actually create things and to be creative.
Nothing that we have in this world now would exist if it hadn't have been someone's idea once. 
Sara: Yeah. And sometimes those ideas, when they first are there, seem so far out, I can remember as a kid watching the cartoons. And I just remember on the Jetsons, like they would have a screen where they could talk to other people.
And I can remember thinking like, that's so cool, but it's never going to happen, you know, because I grew up when we had a black and white TV with three channels.
So, and yet somebody had that idea. And then other people through the years made it come to life. And, you know, so it really enriches our life.
Thank you for throwing all that in there that that's what makes the world go. That's what makes everything grow is creativity. And I have a book that I read at night sometimes to make me sleepy, and it's about how humans came into being.
But one of the things, and so I may get my, what we call humans and stuff, but I think what I'm trying to say is the difference between Neanderthals and homo sapiens.
If I've got that wrong, like sorry everybody. But we what are now, the humans we are now are the ones that made it.
And every other human like, they're not things. Every other human like being, you know, is not here. But one of the things they noticed, like, so I'm not picking on Neanderthals because they were really intelligent. They were really intelligent. They were good hunters. have almost everything we have. 
But the one thing they've never found is signs of like art and creativity of that type.
And so I often think like that's one of the things that kind of, that is what makes humans human.
We are creative. It's how we create the world that we're in. And I think a lot of people think, and as we're saying this like, well, I'm not creative. I couldn't make that thing that like FaceTime, where we can talk on a screen to someone else, or I couldn't create that. I couldn't write a romance book. And maybe those aren't the things that you want to do. But I guarantee you, you have some creativity into you. You're all creative. But some of you just don't know it. And some of you are not using your creativity because you don't have the time, or you don't think your time.
And it's a problem because to me it looks like when I see people that aren't using their creativity, it's almost like seeing sleepwalkers going through life, almost on autopilot.
It's almost like there's a supposed formula out there. Do this. Don't do that. And far, far out there is this other life that someday, if you do everything right, you get to do what you want. 
And so what I think is, you know, tapping into your creativity now is what will allow you to shorten the time between now when you get to feel like you're actually living your life.
I mean, there's no end to the creative things you can do. Writing, making music, arranging flowers, gardening, cooking, making, making jewelry, class making, woodworking, interior design, decorating for the holidays, and thousands of other things.
I know most of you listening have something you want to do or curious to try. Yet you don't, and I get it.
So I'm going to use an example for my life. I have been wanting to paint for years. until recently, I couldn't even make myself try it.
And so I totally get that there's something that keeps us from doing creative things. Even me, someone that considers myself creative, had this block.
What keeps us from, what kept Sara from trying to paint? And it's fear. It's a fear. It's not like a fear, like a tiger's going to jump out and get me or something.
But it's these mental fears. It's like fear of not doing it right. It's not going to look okay. Fear of other people thinking I'm self-indulgent for doing this thing.
Fear, like that I don't know how it's going to turn out. Like, I can't vision it and I don't know how to make this blank canvas turn into something.
You know, I'm afraid I'm just going to look ridiculous. And I'm going to, I'm afraid it's just going to be big old waste of time.
Like, if I can't paint, make it look good, what's the point? And so I think you had a thought on like that social condition.
Kate: I mean, all of those things are definitely true. And again, the society that we've been brought up in as well often hasn’t valued creative pursuits as highly, like I was thinking to myself about for example why the traditional starving artist cliche, the fact that unless you’re super successful in the arts space as singers, dancers,musicians, you don;t have a richly rewarded financial life so society can say those things aren’t quite as valuable and so that can create if all these other fears are true and valid, then I also need to add to the pie that, you know, how's this going to be valuable to anyone? And I guess the case with making is, well, it's not just valuable, it's essential.
Sara: Yes, it's sort of like brushing your teeth or, you know, other things we do that aren't glamorous, but they're good for us.And so, as you pointed out, like doing creative things just for the sake of doing it is good for you.
It's okay to do creative things just for the sake of doing them. You, for sure, don't even have to be good at it.
And actually, I can just guarantee, when you first start something, you will not be good at it. You know, because we're so practical, like we think we should only do things that are good for our health, we can make a living from it or help someone else. 
And so, I know it's hard to grasp the idea of like doing this non-essential thing that doesn't even always feel good because of the fears and the not knowing how it'll turn out and having to go through that miserable being a beginner.
But, you know, spending a few hours a week writing words or painting something. And honestly, I sometimes pray that no one will ever see these things, like I hide them when people are coming over. And so, it might not seem like this would have much value.But as far as I can tell, you know, there is no way to get good at something without being terrible.
Sara: And you know I have a nine year old granddaughter. This one I’ve been watching because she loves stuffed animals. And so her thing has always been making them. I remember when she was really little, I had my drawing stuff out so we could make some things and she was like I want my thing to stand up. Like what,we don’t do that at Sara’s house, art things are flat, we draw. But she was like, no, it has to stand up. She wasn't old enough to use scissors, or the glue gun, so she directed me. We made her first little animal. She still has it. Now that she's older, I think around the time she was eight, she started making her own stuffed animals. And her mom or me would use the glue gun. Then finally, we decided she was old enough to learn it herself.
And then she progressed to sewing and making stuffed animals. But what’s been really interesting is that she’s never judged any of these. From the time she was little, she loves all of these stuffed animals equally. Like her early ones to her are just as beautiful as the ones she makes now. And in her mind, and this goes to that envisioning and preparing for, you know, this few, she already has her company named, you know
Kate: love it.
Sara: Yeah, AB Toys, watch for it in, I don't know how many years, maybe two at the rate she's going.But where I'm going with that is she doesn't question creativity. You know, she's not making money from it. She just does it for the joy of it.
So it's been really inspiring to watching really been inspiring to watch her doing that.
Kate: And so can I just say something on that too? Yeah. that maybe think about like, as well, what you said, the lack of judgment, like she loves the toys equally.
When I was involved in the romance writing space, I also used to judge writing competitions. So because you were, I belonged to Romance Writers of New Zealand and there would be quite a few contests and I put up my hand to judge them. So I read a lot of people’s efforts.
And at the same time I was teaching high school English. And I wasn't actually until about 2007, I'm going to say, that creative writing became something that we assessed at school.
And those senior years of high school before that. was all just essays and boring stuff like that. So I was very, very happy when it was something that I could teach.
But consequently again, I read a lot of teenagers writing. What I came to realize was that the work that I was seeing from the kids was equally good as the work I was seeing from these adults.
And what had happened was that they’d stopped. And so if these teenagers that I was teaching keep writing, imagine how wonderful they could be in five years. 10 years. Do you know what I mean? I'm trying to say that the level where they were at was similar and the reason why the level was similar was because at one point in these adults’ life they'd stopped being creative and then they'd come back to it.
Sara: Oh, that's so interesting.
Kate: So by actually just accepting that everybody at one point is actually got, well, I'm not going to say everybody, we do have various talents, most people have got the ability to be creative in any sphere.
They just stop doing the thing. I can't draw more than a stick figure. Why? Because there was a certain age in my life where I stopped learning how to draw.
Sara: Well, yeah, and that brings up a good point. It's like this separating when we're children. It's like if you're good at something, you get to keep doing it.
Sports is a great example of that. Like, you know, whether it's like elementary school or middle school, at some point, only the kids that are good at things get to keep going.
The kids that just love to play a sport just for the fun of it, like it's all over. And I think that happens with art and stuff. It's the chosen that I think that's where we get the idea, like only the people that are really talented get to go on.
But I also saw having worked in a college for 10 years that a lot of very talented students, whether it was music, art, or like writing, they kind of got stopped in their tracks because there is nothing that will put the fear in a parent like a child saying, I'd like to study art or I'd like to study music.
And so a lot of times these students would get redirected at their parents' request into something practical. And I think that's where, you know, so through childhood and college, if someone goes to college, the creative pursuits are kind of pushed aside. So it makes a lot of sense to me that kind of that part of you that, and you know, and now like a memory I’d pushed away.
Like my first semester of college, I went in as an art student. I was like, and my parents were, my mom, they were fine with it.
But when I got in class with people that were really good at art, I just, I, I, at the end of that semester, I switched to business and never looked back.
Kate: Interesting. 
And so in light of this, like last part of this discussion, it really makes sense why I'm so called to start painting again is because that was something I gave up on myself. I just was like, compared myself to others, said, you are terrible. Like you do not deserve to be in the room with these other students. And you just need to get out as soon as possible. And that's what I did. so anyway, so this conversation, like, apparently this podcast is here for my therapy because it's helping me like go back in time and realize why I'm doing things now.
Kate: Yeah, but like you picked up on a couple of things there and just to reiterate that idea like actually creativity is not just a skill, you know, the only the few get and that you had kept going with your art, who's to say where you would have been and you know, we talked, I think it might have been episode two, when we talked about not being too old, like some of the things I think about now, I think, okay, I don't know how to do that now.
I'll be 50 in a couple of months. If I start learning crochet now, how good might I be when I'm 80 and I've had 30 years practice, I might be the most amazing crocheter in the world.
Sara: And I’lll be a 90 year old painter.
Kate: You know, so you can't let that fear of like, I'm not where I think I should be at this age or level, you know, yeah, at college or these other people are better than me at art so  I'm not good enough. You just kind of go with it and also to emphasize that idea though, that creativity, it's not just innate, it's a skill and it's a learning and you can learn to be more creative and there is also times - this is a bit like exercise. didn't start running into it. I'm in my 40s. I just like, I had this vision that everyone else in the world, other than me, loved to run and I was the only person that dreaded it and thought about excuses to not do it. All this kind of stuff. Then one of my teacher colleagues said to me, Kate, no, not many people do look forward to doing it.
Creativity can be a little bit the same. You think that everyone that's doing it is doing it so effortlessly and they're just loving every moment.
But there were times when I was writing my novels that every sentence felt hard work. A bit like you were saying, the podcast at the beginning felt like hard work.
But that feeling of actually creating something of you being the person that brings this thing into the world that did not exist before, well, that's a pretty amazing thing.
Sara: Yeah, and so as we're wrapping this up, I just want to remind everyone, even though I've talked about the difficulties with it and why it's hard to do, it just gives you access to these other feelings.Like fun, wonder, accomplishment, pride. I  mean, there's this entire realm of amazing feelings that come from creating. And these are the kinds of things that light you up from the inside out.
And for me, these are the feelings that make it worth getting out of bed. You know, on the mornings that I go to write and I have like a blank page, it's just, and then, you know, an hour later, there's a blog post or, you know, I've created.
To me, it's always still amazing. Like I wrote that. And so for you, if you haven't been creating, it may seem difficult to get those creative wheels moving again.
It can almost feel impossible because like anything else, they get rusty when you haven't used them for a while.
And I get it. It's easier to turn on the TV or look at your phone. But I just want to encourage you to just start thinking about like, what's calling you?
You know, it may be different than what's calling me, I mean, you know, different people have these things out there that they want to do. Some people want to have more time for their sewing or to do gardening. It can be just so many different things.
Amd so I just want to encourage you to start exploring it. You don't have to do it every day. You might just take an hour on the weekends or an hour here and hour there.
But this is what will bring energy back, your life back, will light up your face and like, make your body sparkle.
That's how those feel. That's for me, maybe you don't feel sparkle, but that's an energy feeling I like. So when I'm creating, I do feel like just more energy.
I just want to encourage everyone that's listening to start thinking about what is it, what are the ways that you want to be creative?
To just take little micro steps towards it. I bought my painting stuff six months before I actually got the nerve to start painting.
But I think a friend was like, get it out, put it out where you can see it. You know who that friend was? It was you. Just remembered, it was about the books.
Get it out where you can see it and make it easy so that's been what helped me. And so I really just want to encourage you to give your creativity a chance to see the light.
Kate: Well you know something really funny about that. So my stepmother listened to that episode of the podcast. And then when we went away in our RV on one of our recent trips together, she pulled out her crochet that she'd started doing and she said, I'm doing this more because of what you said about having the things around.
And then she taught me how to crochet, which is something that I've been meaning to do for ages. So it was like the circle of creativity just looped around like that.
Sara: I think that's a perfect way to end this. And yeah, I also want to throw in like, there's a little law of attraction in there too.
Like that one thing that you have been thinking about doing there came towards you when you opened it up.
Amazing.
Kate: Awesome. Thank you, Sara. 
Sara: Thank you, Kate.
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